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To me what makes it suck even more is the fact that Apple has no qualms exploiting FOSS themselves. BSD, WebKit, their new “game porting toolkit”. And look what they provide in return. It’s so gross.


Apple does develop WebKit, Swift, and clang/llvm, as well as other things like open source ML models, but I understand what you're saying.

One important lesson I've learned regarding open source is that companies absolutely love it when you work for them for free.

Something I've learned about Apple is that one of their primary businesses is selling hardware with proprietary software running on it.


Agree, at least WebKit can be used outside of Apple. They still did KHTML dirty though.

Your point about working for free is right on the money. I get that asahi is probably intellectually stimulating to work on, but I couldn’t do it knowing I am essentially enriching a company that doesn’t have public benefit in mind.


Clang can definitely be used outside of Apple, and can even compile Linux. Swift technically can be used anywhere, though it is largely driven by Apple and laughs at backward compatibility.

The people I know at Apple actually do have public benefit in mind. They believe in things like usability, privacy, accessibility, sustainability, etc. They don't want to replace you with intrusive AI (yet). And personally I like Apple's products and am using one right now. Unfortunately all large companies tend to turn into monsters that do their best to grind up resources - natural or human - in order to turn them into money. And the designer of the iPhone regrets turning us into zombies - that was not an intended effect.


> And the designer of the iPhone regrets turning us into zombies - that was not an intended effect.

People were already zombies. They just swapped out television for smart phones.


> companies absolutely love it when you work for them for free

Which is why everyone should AGPLv3 their code.




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