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It's clear that this is actually what the American voters want. It's not a glitch or a fluke or a quirk of the system.

I've never been more ashamed to be American.



I'm not so sure.

The democrats keep throwing up these lame/hated candidates (Harris this time, Clinton in 2016) whom they appear to assume will prevail, because, Trump.

And so faced with a choice of bad vs bad, the result ends up being quite close and unpredictable. As my daughter says, the first female US president should be someone actually good.

Blame the system, not the voters, maybe.


There are no good candidates that want the job of national punching bag. Haven't been for a while, especially since the rise of the internet.


I never get this sort of rhetoric.

Its literally 50/50 split.

50% of Americans DON'T want this.

Ita a quirk of democracy, but talking about 'Americans' wanting this, when the result is entirely a coin toss.

And one weighted towards repiblicans by the way their state system works, giving the smaller states a dispropotinate say.

Same thing happens in the UK. A fairly small percentage of the UK voted for Labour and yet it was 'a landslide'. More people voted for Jeremey Corbyn than Kier starmer, but one is apparently 'out of touch' and the less popular politician is somehow a 'genius'.

It's such a bizarre rhetoric that has no basis in reality, just electoral technicalities.


its more than half so far... not quite as close a split as I would have expected 66,181,515 votes (47.5%) 71,113,511 votes (51%)

But yeah.. roughly half the country doesnt want him


People forget that in Germany, Hitler was elected. He was very popular during a time of inflation, and blamed immigrants.

Germans are human too, it can happen anywhere.


Trump being Hitler, Trump ending future elections, Trump promoting Project 2025, all of that fear mongering didn't work. Millions of voters from 2020 didn't bother showing up to vote against Trump this time.


Not trying to fear monger. Just noting how history might judge us.

At the time, in Germany, lot of people didn't vote, and lot went with the flow. Doesn't make it right then or now. That's the point, Germans were human, and it happened. Can happen here.

And, Trump did promote Project 2025, until people looked it up, it became un-popular, then he distanced himself.




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