This is kind of just a list of school related ideas where each paragraph doesn’t build on the next. Is this a bot post?
> I pay taxes so that education will be available for the kids growing up in my community
Vouchers give money to education for all kids.
> a set of standards which their education must meet
Voucher qualified schools meet the same state test standard and exceed public school performance on those metrics. That’s true of home school.
Inb4 selection effects. Thats a good thing.
If you know anything about metrics in large organizations you probably know that whether those standards mean anything is also questionable.
> elected officials which I get to vote for
Who did you vote for in the department of education? How many people did you vote for in your district? When was the last time one of these people found and corrected poor spending?
> is accepting students of all stripe
Your own public school doesn’t do this. What’s the difference between internal segregation and external, except external does more to keep them physically safe.
And your phrasing implies it’s discriminating on something other than academic aptitude, or at least reasonable participation.
> the tax obligation is not individually about each taxpayer's kids
Yes it is. There is a fixed number of kids in the system. That’s how the budget is set. Let me repeat. If you subtract out the fixed cost from the pool before dividing by student number, than you get a voucher amount which should have no impact on the public schools funding. Because by removing your child you are only reducing the variable cost spent on them.
We want schools to be good for everyone in the country. The only reason we're seeing change now is because of regulatory capture. If we continue to privatize schools, everyone is going to be really stupid.
Voucher schools should be free to exist and collect tuition. It's absurd to give our tax dollars to them.
If you only want certain people to be educated, then we should have private charter schools with tax payer dollars. Given that model, I'm opposed to my tax money funding education because it's for profit MBA nonsense that ruins everything good.
Public education is fundamental infrastructure like roads. We should fund it and have the best in the world. If our schools are lacking, we should correct it. If we leave education to the market, that's pretty brutal gambling with the future. I'd like everyone to have an opportunity.
I also consider jobs and benefits for my neighbors a good thing. It benefit me greatly and it's insane to pull up the ladder on these kids and future generations. You're disgusting.
No, it's really just a single idea about what constitutes corruption and what constitutes doing the work of the people. I don't know how to put it more clearly: If we pay for the solution to a problem, people who aren't addressing that problem shouldn't end up with the money.
> Voucher qualified schools meet the same state test standard and exceed public school performance on those metrics.
>> A charter school has flexibility through waivers; however, in exchange for this flexibility, the charter school is bound by contract to be held accountable for meeting the performance-based objectives specified in the charter.
They only have to meet goals that they set for themselves, not the state's goals.
> And your phrasing implies it’s discriminating on something other than academic aptitude, or at least reasonable participation.
It was not trying to imply that something like racial discrimination was going on. My objection is to publicly funded institutions selecting students by academic aptitude (or how well they speak english, or whether they have health problems that will interrupt with the school day. As it turns out, those things correlate with skin color around here, but that's a separate conversation).
I mean, by all means be selective, just don't expect to get tax money for it. What the public is paying for is the educator of last resort. We're not paying taxes so that your A student can go to Harvard, we're paying taxes so that your D student has a shot at community college. One of those is cheap to teach, the other is expensive. Charter schools scoop up the cheap ones and pocket the extra, leaving public schools without the resources to handle the difficult ones. That's why this isn't the case:
> Vouchers give money to education for all kids.
Public schools do things like vision and hearing tests or free lunch so that all of their students have an equal shot at basic things like being able to see the board and study without being hungry. That's not a model that works if you just allocate the same dollar amount to each student and make policies that act like kids are fungible.
Doing so would be like funding the 911 call center such that each citizen gets one call per quarter, and you get cut off once you run out of calls. This whole every-man-an-island perspective just isn't effective at solving any of the problems we have.
> I pay taxes so that education will be available for the kids growing up in my community
Vouchers give money to education for all kids.
> a set of standards which their education must meet
Voucher qualified schools meet the same state test standard and exceed public school performance on those metrics. That’s true of home school.
Inb4 selection effects. Thats a good thing.
If you know anything about metrics in large organizations you probably know that whether those standards mean anything is also questionable.
> elected officials which I get to vote for
Who did you vote for in the department of education? How many people did you vote for in your district? When was the last time one of these people found and corrected poor spending?
> is accepting students of all stripe
Your own public school doesn’t do this. What’s the difference between internal segregation and external, except external does more to keep them physically safe.
And your phrasing implies it’s discriminating on something other than academic aptitude, or at least reasonable participation.
> the tax obligation is not individually about each taxpayer's kids
Yes it is. There is a fixed number of kids in the system. That’s how the budget is set. Let me repeat. If you subtract out the fixed cost from the pool before dividing by student number, than you get a voucher amount which should have no impact on the public schools funding. Because by removing your child you are only reducing the variable cost spent on them.