John and I met each other in the early days of BBSes and he put me in touch with the developer of a BBS called Colossus which was written in Turbo Pascal. This got me started as a developer and I met Jim Harrer through these interactions as we were trying to port BBSes to run on the IBM PCjr. Years later Jim started Mustang Software where we developed a commercial BBS called Wildcat. Jim and I stayed in touch with John the whole time which led to Mustang buying Qmodem. After John left Mustang he and I continued to stay in touch. I ran into him and his son at many of the conferences I spoke at for Microsoft. And most recently he and I were in touch trying to find all the components so we could compile Qmodem again.