I remember re-watching “three days of the condor” recently - and apart from a few “wow the 70s was a different time” moments the biggest takeaway was the hero just hands a dossier to the Washington Post, no drops off a dossier to the post room!, and the film, the audience, everyone just assumes the job is done - the bad guys are exposed and they will be punished
I think we have a different view now. In the UK we are looking at a Post Office scandal where the upper management literally prosecuted its own employees for theft instead of admit a billion dollar computer system was buggy. And this started in 1990s, was printed in newspapers by the mid-2000s and only got serious last year and prosecutions will probably go through to the 2030s
I mean if the punishment for your misdeeds is thirty years delayed, and basically consists of retiring and being embarrassed in front of friends it’s hardly a punishment.
And it rather makes this “moles” efforts … well it’s not much of a deal for him is it really.
That's kinda the trouble with fighting these memes, it's legal to own guns, it's legal to hang out with your buddies and shoot guns and talk about overthrowing the government, it's legal to be friends with the sheriff, it's legal for the sheriff to be a white supremacist...
But all that shit's a powder keg, they're hoping for some nonsense like "race war" to set them off, and until then they have a lot of deniability.
Half the thread is saying they're incompetent but you think them getting(what they feel) is a call to action is powder keg. Feel like neither is actually true as a result.
I also see no reason why a group wanting to get a form of survival training(even with legal firearms) should be against the law unless they have made specific targeted threats of violence. That's usually what you need to press assault as a person. "They said they'd hurt me" doesn't cut it usually without details or clear evidence like video of the threat.
Not sure why for either side it's outside their rights. Keeping tabs is a good thing but they aren't exactly dominating headlines with their acts of violence
Your last sentence sounds completely unfounded and based on your own perception of these groups with no evidence of said "hoping for race wars"
(Edit I'm Canadian but spent a lot of time in the US. Am here now)
The relationship is the most 70s part of that movie. Holy cow. Its old enough I can chuckle at how sexist it is since I can't judge 50yo films by today's standards.
I think we have a different view now. In the UK we are looking at a Post Office scandal where the upper management literally prosecuted its own employees for theft instead of admit a billion dollar computer system was buggy. And this started in 1990s, was printed in newspapers by the mid-2000s and only got serious last year and prosecutions will probably go through to the 2030s
I mean if the punishment for your misdeeds is thirty years delayed, and basically consists of retiring and being embarrassed in front of friends it’s hardly a punishment.
And it rather makes this “moles” efforts … well it’s not much of a deal for him is it really.