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> for Europe, China starts to look like a great not only business but also military partner

Speak for yourself. China is still worse than the USA, and Xi isn't bound to any term limit, and has built up quite a following.



China seems to understand the concept of soft power, something the US has been neglecting for many decades in favor of less subtle military intervention.


You mean: bribery and economic pressure? It surely isn't cultural power.


It could start helping finance infrastructure projects, schools, hospitals, universities, and so on. Along that comes the opportunity to exercise cultural influence and develop consumers and suppliers for your own industry.

It’s far less nasty than invading, freeing the people from their government and installing a puppet in its place. Also a lot cheaper. Any missile could pay for a school.


Read up on USAID.


Which countries has china invaded, illegally or otherwise? Which governments have they toppled, covertly or openly?


Tibet


Perhaps more impressively: India, after India had been early to recognize PRC and worked to get them recognized internationally.


The next country that recognizes Taiwan as a state will find out.


Ah ok, so in other words we have to consider hypotheticals in order to even try and draw a comparison to the other state in question.


So, which countries did China liberate from oppression? What did the CCP/its predecessor movement actually do? Standing aside while the NRA fought the Japanese. Instead of helping and preventing some major bloodbaths, Mao and his army just abided their time. After the power change, the Long March, the Cultural Revolution and whatever havoc I forget, China was too weak to do anything, let alone invade countries. Now it's stronger, and seems remarkably poised for war.

Your "US bad because invasion" is a tankie frame. Yes, that refers to the Tiananmen tanks.


>So, which countries did China liberate from oppression?

My friend, what are you babbling about? Did you hallucinate me saying that China is my model of a utopian society?

Again. Which countries has China invaded or toppled, outside of the imaginary ones you yearn for in your head? Is the list close to that of the US?

>Your "US bad because invasion" is a tankie frame. Yes, that refers to the Tiananmen tanks. (??)

I'm a tankie because I think invasions are bad?? What does that make you, a frothing bloodthirsty hawk? A despotic militarist?

Or will now attempt to argue the tired and ahistorical trope that those other invasions were good actually because Pinochet or Suharto were actually secretly democratic and the thousands they murdered aren't important, and it was good that Arbenz was toppled because he actually wasn't democratically elected and was infact a rabid communist in disguise and the United Fruit Co. lobbying was just a coincidence etc. etc.

If so don't bother. I'm not wasting anymore time talking to one bereft of ordered thought, spinning baffling word associations and tired tropes. I'm not interested in discovering to what extent daily life presents a sisyphean ordeal to you.




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