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In the ideal scenario you build the subway or other transit when density is low and land is relatively cheap, and THEN you make it high density.

Doing it after the fact is much, much harder.



> In the ideal scenario you build the subway or other transit when density is low and land is relatively cheap, and THEN you make it high density

Do we have examples of this working? (Genuine question.)


Outside the US, there are many examples (Japan and China both do this).

In the US, I don't know specific examples, but you can definitely use a combination of policies (building public transit, zoning laws to encourage high density, making parts of the city more pedestrian-friendly - and generally less car-friendly) to encourage high density.


Definitely! Here’s a video with some discussion

https://youtu.be/MnyeRlMsTgI?t=667&si=g-xwXEjLPPobUkzy

There’s photos of subway stops in random fields in china that sometimes get laughs but in actuality china is just smart enough to build the subway and THEN the buildings.

Meanwhile Japanese rail companies own land where they build rail and can make more money on the land than on the trains


You don't decide to make things high density out of the blue. People have to WANT to live there.


Well yes, one clear indicator of that is where homes are expensive. Like in places with great transit and amenities.


Cheap + quick commute to downtown takes care of that.


There is only a downtown if there are jobs there.




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