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This reads like one of those "why aren't they yelling like I am and here is why" stories. Most of the "why" here seems like weirdly spun talking points that I don't think are relevant to anything, some just BS.

If Democrats need anything these days it is SOMETHING to sell people on. I'm no fan of Trump, but having just "Trump sucks" as your selling point is going nowhere.




> If Democrats need anything these days it is SOMETHING to sell people on. I'm no fan of Trump, but having just "Trump sucks" as your selling point is going nowhere.

YES. They are selling nothing currently. They may need to embrace some populism if they want any chance at being in power again. I'm not even a fan of Bernie really, but he managed to capture a spark of that on the left.


Bernie's mannerism / rally temperament was surprisingly Trump like.

Reporter's at his rallies noted how his fans loved him and seemed happy, even if Bernie seemed mad throughout his speech.


There is nothing the Democrats have to sell that is anywhere near as exciting as what Trump is offering.

Biden gave out a ton of student debt relief, for example. You'd think people would be thrilled. Instead they just shrugged.

What Democrats offer is basic good governance. That comes with incremental improvements.

Suppose that the Democrats had offered something really off-the-wall to appeal to its left wing, like completely ditching support for Israel over Gaza. How many votes do you think that would get them? And how many would they lose?

The closest the Democrats get is Obama, who offered a nebulously positive "Hope". That got a lot of enthusiasm, but very little got done. "Hope" consisted of bending over backwards to try to get Republicans to work with him. What he got was the opposite of that.

At this point, if somebody wants Trump -- or just doesn't care -- having been very clear about what he will do, I don't think there's anything to be done. The voters know what they want, and deserve to get it, good and hard.


I don’t think they tried selling anything… last round.

Harris didn’t seem to have a message.


Personally I thought "I'm not a convicted felon" was a pretty good message. Apparently people wanted the other thing.


Another year or two, and "basic good governance" could look pretty good...


I thought it looked pretty good last year, so it shows what I know.




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