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No one shoots themselves in the foot more often than GOP voters.

It’s wild to watch folks like my SIL (a teacher) and my BIL (a combat veteran with no other marketable skills) vote against their own self interests every time they select a GOP candidate.

These folks have spent decades doing everything they can to make life more difficult for teachers and veterans. Yet teachers and veterans will still line up to elect these people.



> These folks have spent decades doing everything they can to make life more difficult for teachers and veterans. Yet teachers and veterans will still line up to elect these people.

I don't know your SIL or BIL, but in general they line up to vote because the party promises to make life even more difficult for people unlike them. "I may be losing my job and health benefits, but on the bright side, some immigrant might be sent back to their country, or some blue haired lesbian might be driven to suicide!" That's the mentality we're dealing with.


Agreed. They vote like that because they wish to make life more difficult for those they dislike.


See, the problem with two political parties is you get a lot of baggage for a couple of things you like. So you're basically voting for two piles of shit that may say one or two things you like. Did I like lockdowns? No, Do I like corrupt insurance, also no.

The way I see it is the Democrats are for the really poor people and the really rich people, of which I'm neither. The GOP is for the really rich people, of which I am not. Neither party has any interesting restoring any type of freedoms, they both want to ban stuff they don't like.

The middle class really has no real representation, and that's why we're dying.


they both want to ban stuff they don't like.

genuinely curious which stuff do democrats want to ban?


I’m curious to hear the answer as well.

Maybe they’ll say something about guns. But we all know Republicans basically invented modern gun control.

Democrats want to ban things like unvaxxed children. Which sounds like a great idea. Especially looking at the current measles outbreak in Texas.


In the last 4 years the Democrats expanded overtime eligibility, ramped up antitrust enforcement, got inflation under control, cracked down on junk fees, forgave billions in student loan debt, invested in domestic manufacturing, invested in infrastructure spending (unlike Trump's "infrastructure week" that was talked about for his entire term and never happened), prosecuted companies for union busting, added penalties for airlines who abuse customers, and so many other things.

Anyone who claims "both are the same" and "neither does not anything for the middle class" is being willfully ignorant.


Yea, you're right. Biden did some pretty good things for the middle class. I'm glad he got us out of Afghanistan finally, though it was pretty messy.

I'm more remembering Clinton's NAFTA and basically telling everyone to "learn to code," and Obama bailing out the banks but allowing middle class homes to be sold for pennies on the dollar to companies like Berkshire. It wasn't his mess, but the bailouts seemed one sided.

Biden also did some bad things, like the lockdowns, and threatening people's jobs if they didn't get the jab. Misrepresenting the efficacy of the vaccine, etc. I believe Pfizer made record profits off those policies, which was, for lack of a better word, "icky." The Twitter Files were pretty bad as well. I didn't like that he defended his 93 crime bill, one of our countries biggest mistakes. He also punted on legalizing pot, ensuring more of the drug war. That's kinda my point, with either party, we get a few good things and a lot of bad things. It always feels like a bad deal.


Lockdowns were under Trump. How quickly we forget ...


"Why wasn't Obama in the White House on 9/11?"

"That's what I want to know!"

Not to mention that survey back in the day of Republican voters, "What if, instead of Obamacare, the government was to introduce an Affordable Care Act?"

80% of Republican voters were in favor of it...


Yes they were. They were also extended for multiple years under Biden. The no fly list for no jab under Biden, discharging military who refused the shot, Biden.


No they weren't. It was done, if at all in 2021, at the State level.

Vaccination requirements for travel were cross border, and there was never a "No fly list". The closest restrictions to what you may be thinking of was Hawaii's 5 day quarantine requirements for certain unvaccinated travelers, which continued until March 2022. Military have always had vaccination requirements.

You are an unreliable narrator, sorry.


Yes, you're right. It was for international flights. He also required anyone in-office to get the vaccine if they worked for a company with 100 or more people. That was shot down by the courts. People were scratching their heads why the corporate requirement existed and the airline requirement didn't.

https://nypost.com/2021/11/28/biden-allows-airlines-to-escap...

Pretending that all the covid restrictions were only from Trump is just plain wrong.

>It was done, if at all in 2021, at the State level.

And greatly extended, sometimes for years by Democratic governors held in high regard by the party. This crushed small (middle class) businesses, but the large conglomerates (Walmart, etc) survived just fine. In fact they thrived because all their small business competition died off. Restaurants too. The ridiculous outdoor dining, what a mess, they were just winging it the whole time.


Once again you're wrong. Only non-citizens had to show proof of vaccination to enter the US.

The OSHA rule never went into effect. The NY Post is not a good representation of "people". OSHA has certain powers to regulate work safety. The Supreme Court said vaccination requirements for workplaces should be handled at the State and Local level. Limiting travel is much more fraught, plus it's limited and intermittent exposure.

You were talking about Biden, not State level decisions about how to weigh risks and handle an unprecedented health emergency.




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