> If I ever feel down on the Mac, I can go to a PC and try make a pdf or view one.

After a restart (which happens a lot because the machine crashes a lot[0]), my Windows 10 box won't be "ready for use" for a good 10 minutes. I've seen it take 30 minutes. I've done macOS updates that have taken less time.

Oh and macOS doesn't randomly reboot to apply updates. Still haven't found a way to prevent Windows from doing that.

[0] I suspect the 3080 but it frequently crashes when idle on the desktop which shouldn't be stressing anything GPU-wise.

There is a tool called Windows Update Blocker which i use on a Win10 server that i run:

https://www.sordum.org/9470/windows-update-blocker-v1-8/

I don't really get this criticism. If I want to make a PDF, I open up Word and save as PDF. To open it, I double click the file.

You can save anything you can print as a PDF since what, Windows 7? And the OS comes with a PDF reader since what, Windows 8?

And Word comes bundled by default on windows?

> And the OS comes with a PDF reader since what, Windows 8?

Which one, the Edge browser? Don't you have to install Sumatra PDF or Acrobat?

Word isn't bundled by default but you can print anything to PDF. Windows ships with a PDF printer installed, so you could print from Notepad to PDF if you'd like.

PDF readers haven't been required for over 10 years? Chrome shipped with a PDF viewer eons ago and of course the old version of Edge and current Chromium Edge (and now Firefox, as of a week or two ago) have PDF viewers.

macOS Preview is limited to PDF 1.4. That kind of sucks. Not a deal breaker for most PDFs, but I've come across one or two that won't render and I had to figure out why.

Preview is vastly better than any stock Windows reader. It lets you read, edit and share nearly all PDFs. I can’t recall every getting stuck.

Yes, most PDFs are version 1.4 or less until you get into the business world where more complex PDFs requiring a 2.0 reader exist.

That said, the Edge PDF viewer also lets you read, edit, and share nearly all PDFs.

I do it in windows near daily. It’s slow, taking a long time to open and a long time to make them. I’ve tried using the browser, notepad and Word.

I’m surprised you find it fine. It’s more clicks and slower at each step than on a Mac.

PDFs open just as fast in Edge as they do in Preview. Printing to PDF is no different from macOS or Windows.

> And Word comes bundled by default on windows?

Yes. When you type "word" in the search bar, you get directed to MS Word Online, a free version of MS Word.

For all the other programs, and browsers as well, hit "print" and select "print to PDF".

> Which one, the Edge browser

Yes. I hate Edge and have disabled it, but I have to give it to them that their PDF reader is much better than the one built into other operating systems. It's optimised for simplicity and common PDF interactions (highlighting, filling out forms, etc.). Plus, unlike all the other PDF readers, Edge has some excellent security features that have been implemented because of its browser nature.

The way Edge has turned into a shitty shell of its former self is a true software tragedy. It was well on the way to become the best browser available until Microsoft decided to Microsoft all over it. Still, works fine for opening PDF files.