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> No it doesn't, all the ideas for democracy, and modern social democracy can and were arrived at independent of marxist communism.

That's incorrect. Marx was an inspiration to many later politicians and philosophers and his ideas are found in many socialist policies. Not all of them great, of course.

> State intervention in the economy is something every empire had done threw its whole history.

Yes, and that doesn't tell us anything. But for example the state directly and wholly owning and operating transit systems used by the public is very much a socialist policy.



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