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No one is asking for support for every possible integration.

What people are asking for is not actively preventing other integrations. That means through business means and deals as well as technological measures.



I gotta be honest, I really feel like these comments are completely divorced from reality.

No one (p99.99) wants to get rid of Google/Apple on their phones. But "how do I install Play services" is a wildly popular search for people who own Kindle Fires.

No one wants to deal with the Windows 98ificaiton of phones.


> I gotta be honest, I really feel like these comments are completely divorced from reality.

> No one (p99.99) wants to get rid of Google/Apple on their phones. But "how do I install Play services" is a wildly popular search for people who own Kindle Fires.

Just like no one wants to get rid of Internet Explorer, right?

No one wants to, in large part because it's a fucking nightmare. I say that as someone who not only knows how, but knows how to write the code for it too. Why is it so hard? What makes it a nightmare? Their business model requires a walled garden, because otherwise...

Anyways, People have no issues migrating from myspace to facebook, or from youtube to instagram to tiktok. If it wasn't a fucking nightmare full of bullshit, user hostile rules (e.g. manifest version, or max age of TCP connections) there'd be a market for Google alternatives.

Right now the only motivation is privacy, and Graphiene works pretty well. Turns out, caring about privacy is a lot more motivating than wanting some feahure to work. Especially when "they" have a vested interest in making sure no one else can provide that feature.


They want it the moment they lose their Google account, or a service they used shuts down or sold to a group they don't want to support.

They just know that complaining about it gets them nowhere, so you don't hear it much outside minor explosions of rage as they lose everything.


You probably simply don't know what this is about. When Android phones "age" to a certain point, they become locked (user cannot log into the OS), and the only way to circumvent this is by jailbreaking them and installing a different firmware / OS.

I have a Galaxy S7 that is in this condition, and I haven't the time to try to reinstall it.

Many users never face this problem because they buy new phones before their old ones hit this particular point, often because many applications will stop working before that due to developers discontinuing support effectively rendering the phone useless. I ran into this problem because I kept my phone around due to some images stored on it (well, now that's lost forever).


I know this requires changing the SoC to x86_64 or ARM but I want bog standard Linux any distribution to run on the cell phone, at least run in the sense of the kernel. The applications would be up to the distribution maintainers. Talking to the modem should just be a Linux kernel module that has been blessed by Linus Torvalds. The code must be clean enough that at no point is he tempted to raise the middle finger or start writing an email. No obfuscated code, no lawful intercept JTAG debugging code, no dodgy BIOS just bog standard Linux and standard x86_64 or ARM hardware. Maybe something like coreboot as the BIOS.

In fairness I also want a goose that lays golden eggs.


By all means do that. I'm sure you will find an audience of enthusiasts who would consume your work. Saying is one thing, doing is another.


"What color do you like dragon to be?"


Multi-Phasic Ultraviolet. Only visible with Spectrespecs.


Nobody wants that because there's currently no market for it, so no solutions for it.

(And yes, we can quibble about alternate Android app stores in countries that aren't China, but Google's rigged that game heavily in their favor via defaults)




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