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>manipulated and embattled

>attractive woman, as the dynamic is similar.

I came to the complementary hmmm recently that, sorta contrary to what you mused above, charisma is correlated bi-modally with unusual physical attractiveness/unattractiveness in (young) men on one hand, and unimodally with unusual intelligence in women on the other.

Something to do with the accumulated volume vs usefulness of social feedback up till the point of observation, it seems. Maybe we are indeed confusing charisma with social skills+selfawareness. Cabane makes sense-- charisma is magic because we don't see the prep.

Had you (and I?) been artists, not technologists, the charisma could have come much earlier




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