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> New developers are having an extremely hard time learning enough skills to be gainfully employed. They are drowning in this complex garbage and feeling really disheartened.

> We need to relearn what the web is capable of and go back to that.

> And it [the web] has only gotten better over time while retaining an incredible level of backwards compatibility.

I would suggest that "retaining an incredible level of backwards compatibility" might be one of the sources of this "complex garbage" the web world is drowning in.

The fact that so many people feel the need to reach for a framework makes me wonder if the web doesn't do nearly as much as it needs to do. Maybe the web will always just be too big, too slow to change, and too bad at pruning out all of the bad ideas that accumulated over the years.

"But what about backwards compatibility? Don't we want all the old web apps to continue to work forever?" Yes, so ship the renderer with the app.

Sure, the current web is probably beyond being able to this, but I'm sure we'll eventually find a far better way to distribute software than the web, a way that makes fewer assumptions about the environment our code will run in.



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