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Trump is making Europe great again (vox.com)
26 points by lr0 4 months ago | hide | past | favorite | 16 comments


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I see some car companies there. A few Nordic oil companies. Are there others?

edit: Nestle and Dior if you want some candies and fragrances, I guess.


Planes, finance, military equipment, video games, pharmaceuticals (ever heard of ozempic?)


Novo Nordisk sold so much ozempic, Denmark's central bank had to take currency action.

https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2024/07/26/g-s1-13...


Manufacturing represents ~15% of the EU GDP, vs. ~11% in the US. Both because lower wages make manufacturing in the EU more competitive and because financialization has not gone as far as in the US.


Manufacturing what though? Certainly not technology. We know they're not trying to build their own compute clouds to compete with AWS or Microsoft. Or OpenAI. They're not even trying to compete with Nvidia.

The EU's entire productive economy is stuff like cheese, VW cars, and perfumes.


The EU is a greater share of global manufacturing than the US [1]. Are you comparing real manufacturing to cloud/search providers, GPUs, and generative AI that has shown questionable value? Airbus has an order book ~11 years long and Boeing is hanging on by a thread. Rheinmetall, Germany's largest defense company, is worth more than VW (as mentioned in this piece). The giga press hardware manufactured for Tesla was built by Idra Group in Italy.

I somewhat chuckle at the idea that they should be spitting out GPUs instead of electric vehicles, defense hardware, and aircraft (both civilian and military).

[1] https://www.brookings.edu/articles/global-manufacturing-scor...


Not sure if you're trolling or seriously underinformed. Firstly, since when is building compute clouds manufacturing?

More to the point though, a large portion of manufacturing machinery is in fact build in Germany and the Netherlands (ASML is probably the most famous example, but others include Festo, Bosch ...), you'll find hardly an advanced production line which doesn't run on machines build in Europe. Interestingly most of the companies behind this are smaller size businesses, it seems like the European business sphere does not tend so much toward large corporates (although I could be wrong here, I have not seen any statistics).


You’re forgetting prime brokers financing most of the US financial players on wall street Societe generale BNP paribas UBS+Credit Suisse Deutsche bank

Lets also not forget Ubisoft (French company) making assassins creed etc games

And airbus making planes ?


This is like someone saying the US economy consists of junk food and t-shirts. Why post such ignorant comments, when you could take a few minutes to inform yourself instead of looking foolish.


What is foolish? We know that the EU is entirely sustained by Russia, USA, and China. Nearly all the energy, technology, and everything else.


No we don't. It seems you were only pretending to inquire as a cover for pushing a particular (false) idea.


  In 2023, EU exported $6.43T (28.4% of global exports) and imported $6.56T (29% of global imports).
https://oec.world/en/profile/international_organization/euro...

Not a lot "stands out" - their exports are a rich diversity of many smaller items, Pharma, electronics, many types of machines.

The OEC link has internal and external trade breakdowns by product if you scroll down.


Looks like US exports for same year less than half of EU:

> Exports were $3,053.5 billion Source: https://www.bea.gov/news/2024/us-international-trade-goods-a...

And UK exports last year were $1trillion Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/uk-trade-in-numbers...

So unless I am mistaken, the UK+EU export $7.43 trillion whereas US just $3 trillion


ASML


Feels kinda like: "No offense to Information Technology, but my understanding is that they produce basically nothing in this company..."




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