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As if binary blobs were subject to copyright laws in the first place.

The whole “licensing” stuff on language model is a scam, or more precisely, an attempt to create a new kind of IP laws from thin air.



Are you implying movies (binary blobs) are not subject to copyright laws?


The blob itself isn't, exactly: you cannot just reencode a movie and claim copyright protection over the resulting blob.

What's protected is the content of the movie, and it's protected because it derives from human creativity.

> The copyright law only protects “the fruits of intellectual labor” that “are founded in the creative powers of the mind.”

> […]

> Similarly, the Office will not register works produced by a machine or mere mechanical process that operates randomly or automatically without any creative input or intervention from a human author.

source: https://www.copyright.gov/comp3/chap300/ch300-copyrightable-...


>you cannot just reencode a movie and claim copyright protection over the resulting blob.

Because that would be a derivative work.

>the content of the movie

Which exists as a binary blob. Copying that binary blob requires a license to do so.


> Because that would be a derivative work

No, derivative work require human creativity themselves. Compiling or re-encoding still doesn't count.

See : https//www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/101

A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a "derivative work".

> Which exists as a binary blob.

Nope, for copyright protection it must exist at least as one binary blob, but having multiple binary blobs (with different resolutions) doesn't make it a different copyright piece. It's the underlying creation that is protected, not a particular instance of it. Star Wars, the Empire Strikes Back is what's registered at the Copyright Office, not Star_Wars_The_Empire_Strikes_Back.720p.avi.

> Copying that binary blob requires a license to do so.

Fortunately no, otherwise your internet provider would need a license from the copyright holders to copy the blob from Netflix server to your machine.

One last time: copyright isn't about the blob, it's about the creation stored on it. The process of creating the blob doesn't grant you any copyright protection of you don't own the underlying material.


>No, derivative work require human creativity themselves.

Then it would just be a copy then. Copies need a license.

>Fortunately no, otherwise your internet provider would need a license from the copyright holders to copy the blob from Netflix server to your machine.

No, I believe this is because internet providers do not save the content which means that a copy is not considered to be made. If copies were allowed of binary blobs people could legally make pirate sites sharing copies like that.


> No, I believe this is because internet providers do not save the content which means that a copy is not considered to be made.

Nope, that's not the reason, and that's why you don't need to give a copyright license to Apple before storing your personal pictures to iCloud either, nor does Apple need a license to store copyrighted material you got a license for (like software or paid downloaded movies). Copying a blob isn't a license infringement in itself, because the blob itself was never protected by copyright.

> If copies were allowed of binary blobs people could legally make pirate sites sharing copies like that.

No, because sharing is what you'd get prosecuted for.

Part of me thinks you should really try to start learning the basis of stuff before arguing on the internet about it, but who am I to judge your life choices. I did my best to help you learn something, but if you refuse to there's nothing more I can do.


>that's why you don't need to give a copyright license to Apple before storing your personal pictures to iCloud either

You do which is why it's a part of the terms of service for icloud.

https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/en/terc....

>No, because sharing is what you'd get prosecuted for.

Copyright controls both reproduction and distribution.

>start learning the basis of stuff before arguing on the internet about it

You are being unnecessarily smug and condescending.


> You do which is why it's a part of the terms of service for icloud.

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> Copyright controls both reproduction and distribution.

Reproduction in the copyright sense isn't about blob copying. RAID 1 isn't a copyright infringement either… And neither is a Windows defragmentation (which is just the OS copying files around).

> You are being unnecessarily smug and condescending.

You are needlessly obstinate on a topic you don't understand.




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