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So far, the funding in question is research grants. There's an argument that research is more effective at the universities that have concentrated the best researchers.


There’s also an argument that public funds should go to public schools.


What about private research institutes? They don’t really educate anyone, not in the way that people think of when they say education. Why must all funds only go to public organizations?


why should the government pay for that? If people want to do private research thats up to them


Why should the government pay for research? Because the private sector can some times move faster than a public research lab. They may have different capabilities. They have different strengths. They may be more efficient in certain situations. Why is this surprising to you?


What does it matter if they are faster? The pertinent question is if private research has a direct public benefit


Yes, complementing an observation that there are many funding sources that aren't the Federal Government

From my conversations with people, this university funding topic is a mere proxy for their disdain with Trump on every topic, in a fairly incoherent rehash of random headlines. Have found very few people willing to discuss how universities are funded like this article is.

The last 75 years of interacting with the federal government and proletariat will be a footnote in these school’s half millenium history. It won’t even be controversial. Non-upper class people won’t be using them to get into corporations, a mere happenstance of the last 75 years and not what these universities view themselves as. Non-upper class people won’t be worried about how many of them are in, and what criteria is involved, and how fair. And the Federal government won’t be using their one avenue of funding to bother them about it. 75 out of 400, and then 1,000 years. A footnote. Probably laughed about.

“Remember when we had $50bn from daytrading tax free and got the US government to pay for our toys every year until a total populist uprising occurred at the expense of the entire nation. Other People’s Money! Rowing club later?”


Top US state schools have a lot of really good researchers.


And those researchers at state schools will tell you that many of the Ivys, and other elite schools such as MIT and Caltech, are better.

Some state schools are among the elite, such as Berkeley, of course, and UCLA, Michigan ... depending on how large your 'elite' is.




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