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I hate to split hairs like this, but terrorism is pretty well defined:

> ter·ror·ism:

> The use of violence or the threat of violence, especially against civilians,

> in the pursuit of political goals.

Irrespective anyone's sympathies for those goals, the facts are the facts and the actions are the actions.


If it were well defined, there wouldn't be any debate on it. And no one is interested in your designated definition.

The only valid definition is: "terrorism is anything I don't like"

This is why Republicans called it a "terrorist fist bump"


It's not "my designated" definition. It's the one in the dictionary. And my implication was that even when I or you agree with the goals of an organization, when what they're doing is "terrorizing" people, then they are terrorists.

I know it's uncomfortable to think that we might side with the terrorists, god knows we've been conditioned by countless hours in counter-strike to think they're the bad guys, but sometimes that's what we feel, and we should make peace with that. It's OK to agree with the goals, but disagree with the means.


Literally no one uses the dictionary, including for the word “literally”

Also you’re trying to normalize the government definition. That’s not going to happen.

Instead, you’re going to take the side of the “terrorosts”. You’re going to define them as a military instead of a terrorist group. You’re going to see their actions on October 7 and elsewhere as legitimate military tactics, since that’s what they are.

Everybody else in the world does. I would suggest you catch up.


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Massacres are legitimate military tactics? Do military tactics include atrocities?


There isnt a debate. Hamas is a terrorist organization.


Again,, please don’t normalize the US government’s viewpoint.

The vast majority of the world says they’re freedom fighters.


Wouldn't that definition then include, say, riot police at any protest, or USA in the Iraq war, or say, Israel when they bomb homes in Gaza? That's a definition that seems like it would fit an incredible number of uses of violence.


> That's a definition that seems like it would fit an incredible number of uses of violence.

Indeed.


Admitting that every pro palestinian is also pro hamas seems like a massive political blunder to me.




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