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Most people aren't getting drunk every time they drink.

Try wine and grape juice side by side. Baring truly awful wine, the wine will taste better (I suppose you could have awful grape juice too, but, you get the idea).



Taste is subjective. To people not used to consuming any alcohol the wine might taste worse than plain grape juice.


Sure, but it's a taste people have spent a couple thousand years working on, and it's remained popular through huge changes in culture and diet. People clearly like it.


Some people, sure, but not all people.


Context and experience shape so much of how we taste things


> Try wine and grape juice side by side. Baring truly awful wine, the wine will taste better

The unfermented juice of wine grapes has many similarities to the wine it would produce if fermented. "Grape juice" is usually pretty one note, just sweet.


Sure, but if alcohol didn't get you drunk consumption would plummet 95%.


I wouldn't be so sure... I'm certain my own would increase. (Assuming 'get you drunk' means something like 'contain ethanol' i.e. no 'buzz' or whatever but also no adverse effect on liver, the next day, ...).

If you want a cold drink that isn't sweet, your choices are pretty much alcohol, alcohol-free alternative, water.


>If you want a cold drink that isn't sweet, your choices are pretty much alcohol, alcohol-free alternative, water.

Uh, no.

There's also seltzer, flavored seltzer, flavored water, iced tea, iced coffee, herbal infusions (like hibiscus, rooibos, honeybush, etc), broth, milk and plant based milk alternatives, and fermented drinks like kombucha + kefir. That's just off the top of my head.

Hibiscus even has the benefit of helping regulate blood pressure.

I almost never drink sweet drinks or plain water and rarely drink alcohol. My fluid consumption is almost entirely: hot tea, iced tea, kombucha, and hibiscus infusion. Sometimes seltzer. Sometimes coffee.


Tea and coffee don't have to be sweet either, and there are lots of cold versions of those.


Also plenty of traditional cold drinks that are savoury or can be savoury: doogh, ayran, lassi, jaljeera, buttermilk, kvass


I guess simply 'milk' I also missed, which is a bit sweet of course but I wasn't intending to lump it in with fruit juices and added-sugar drinks.

I did almost mention jaljeera, but thought that might be a bit niche. It is also often sweetened though. I've never known not-sweet lassi though? Salted lassi is still sweet underneath, like salted caramel, ime. We could count it with the sweet-ish milk drinks, anyway.


Lassi is a traditional drink where I’m from and contains only salt traditionally. Sweetened lassi is a relatively recent restaurant-led innovation. When I was a kid “lassi” meant salted; you had to specify “sweet lassi” for the sweetened version.


I’ll add legumes juices : both raw, fresh blend or the water from a soup that you separate and put in a fridge. Those are delicious.

Kvaas contain alcohol, doesn’t it?


Of about kefir percentage. Kwas has 0.5-1.5% ABV, kefir has 0.02-2.0% ABV.


> Kvaas contain alcohol, doesn’t it?

I think only as much as kombucha, not enough to cause a buzz


To be fair, the concept of iced tea as an objective desire is considered the provenance of blasphemous original sin by a not insignificant percentage of natives where the parent hails from.


That seems unlikely. Non alcoholic drinks are already an enormous market, and people would have less reason to limit consumption with the health downside removed.


If you hate the taste of alcohol (like me), I think the grape juice would taste better


I like beer and I think the taste of wine is absolutely vile.


Totally agree. I love beer. I just love it. I would drink beer all day if it didn’t have that damned alcohol in it.

I like alcohol too, but not nearly as much as I like beer. Kinda sounds nonsensical, but that’s how I feel!




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