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Unfortunately it’s becoming more obvious that “short-term” is all we really have in this world. There is no long term.

So why plan for long term? Life is a series of short-term wins until you finally die. Same with companies. Things change so fast now that you could be crushing it one year and going out of business the next. It’s not like old days where you could setup a blacksmithing shop and have business for generations.

Results now are way better than results later.



I think your comment comes from a very specific point of view. Like software/tech jobs. (Even there you have long term stuff that we all would definitely benefit from).

There are so many things where short-term only thinking is counter-productive. It swallows money, creates frustration and leaves an overall net-negative to society and the world.

Just one example would be city planning. Repairing a road? What else is there like fiber cables, maybe some tram tracks, and so on, long term planning would be to acquire a holistic picture and to plan one timespan where everything is done fast but with quality. It’s a few months construction, after that everything is fine for years or even a few decades to come. But what you see instead is one part of the state that manages fiber cables doing there own thing, another part that manages street quality do their own thing. So the street has a construction site for a year (for just improving one part) then a few months nothing then another year of construction again, nothing, construction and soon you have over a decade of constant on and off construction work on this one street. Something that could’ve been done in 6-12 months once and be done, if planned correctly and with long term and holistic picture in mind.

And this is just one example. The world is full of stuff like this. Short term might be a good thing for very specific types of projects, but I hard disagree that short term is overall better in any way.

In my opinion this shortterm thinking is a huge negative factor of modern societies. Because not everything is a tech startup where things change super fast.


> Unfortunately it’s becoming more obvious that “short-term” is all we really have in this world. There is no long term.

That's definitely not true. It sounds like a rationalization for the existing bad and unwise behavior.

> So why plan for long term? Life is a series of short-term wins until you finally die.

So, dump the untreated toxic waste into the river, then?

> Same with companies. Things change so fast now that you could be crushing it one year and going out of business the next. It’s not like old days where you could setup a blacksmithing shop and have business for generations.

Maybe if you're in some startup, but that's not the usual case.

> Results now are way better than results later.

So be "very proud [for taking] home a salary for about two hours of work per day following up with contractors, then heading to the gym and making social plans."?


>That's definitely not true. It sounds like a rationalization for the existing bad and unwise behavior.

You seem to miss that companies that think quarter to quarter behave just like this.

>So, dump the untreated toxic waste into the river, then?

You mean like the current administration that's trying to get rid of the EPA?


>> That's definitely not true. It sounds like a rationalization for the existing bad and unwise behavior.

> You seem to miss that companies that think quarter to quarter behave just like this.

Did I miss that, or was I commenting on that exact thing?

>> So, dump the untreated toxic waste into the river, then?

> You mean like the current administration that's trying to get rid of the EPA?

What's your point with that political derail? It's honestly baffling.


It's not just a political derail to bring up a highly-visible example of the described behaviour. People don't care if they aren't forced to care, and in a world driven by deadlines, we're only motivated to care a certain amount.

There used to be an intrinsic motivator of "well, my kids are going to suffer if I don't push for long-term relationships", but now we aren't having kids, so that carrot doesn't work, and that attitude is bubbling up into the corporate world.


>bring up a highly-visible example

Sure, but let's be clear, we shouldn't be taking any lessons from the Trump regime on how to live in virtually any aspect in one's life. If anything they're a shining example of everything not to do.


Blessed are those who plant trees under whose shade they will never sit


I think they mean (to stretch the analogy), we are razing trees to build rapidly changing highways so much now that the tree you plant today may be chopped down in a couple of years through no fault of your own.


> Unfortunately it’s becoming more obvious that “short-term” is all we really have in this world. There is no long term.

The opposite seems far more obvious to me. Short-term results aren't going to last. Planning for the long-term - whether that's a career, family, or whatever - is critical to a fulfilling and healthy life.

> Results now are way better than results later.

I don't see why you can't have both.


Not sure why you get down voted for this.

Seems self evident that increasing pace of change of society tilts the rational strategy towards short-term over long-term gain.

Do people disagree that the pace of change is increasing? Do people disagree that short termism is rationally appropriate in a highly changeable situation? Long term planning requires a stable backdrop. I agree with you.




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