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If you are open to questioning the “junkies” and their “choice to be so” stereotype, you may find this TED talk useful.

https://youtu.be/PY9DcIMGxMs?si=9qNCkYrV2CY3_n7o

Everything you think you know about addiction is wrong | Johann Hari


thanks for sharing this for people who arent already aware , it would be great for the unaware to search gabor mate's work into addiction too , im not interested in discussing junkies and addiction im interested in discussing the promulgation of drugs to a society that doesn't benefit from it on average


If society didn't benefit from it in some way, would it really be allowed to happen? Because sure, it may end up fucking up a bunch of people for whose problem it was the wrong solution. And commercializing it will probably diminish its value in some way. But society is a consummate egoist.


counterpoint conscription


clarify?


how does the average member of society benefit from being forced to go to war and die ?


How do you know the average person has nothing to benefit from a hallucinogen? It’s basically an old meme that society would be better off if everyone tried it. We get it, you don’t like drugs nor the people who take them.


it's no good to live your life so instantaneously judgementally , you'll be held back from conversations that you could learn lots from


thanks for sharing that


if drug use is an irredeemable personal moral failure as you cast it, surely you would be similarly unconcerned about anyone who partook once it become normalized; why worry when they'll either count as a junkie to you soon enough by developing noticeable follow-on issues, or they won't, primarily by dint of not having such issues?


I reply out of obligation to aid your future argumentation , noting that this was the first moral judgement passing my lips


a model of the world in which reducing the totality of a person to "junkie" is morally neutral does not seem particularly useful to me in a real-world context, and i would urge you to reconsider ascribing to such.


im not going to stop you from discussing the sturdy nature of digging tools that have thick handles and heavy flat blades , personally im gonna call it a spade and move on , all the best




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