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> Its really hard to change people without using threats or force.

People change all the time. We are much different than ~10 years ago, before the rise of the far-right in the West. We are much different than 100 years ago.

People get much more exercise, eat healthier, are better educated ... so much as changed. Another new thing is people love to embrace nihilism rather than hope and progress - almost nobody embraces the latter these days.






What makes you think that people eat healthier and get more exercise?

In the US at least, Obesity is on the rise, people eat more meat than ever before, and life expectancy is basically flat over the past decade.


And they smoke a lot less. Of course it depends on your starting point, but compared to all of human history before 50 years ago, the trend is clear.

"People changing" and "changing people" are radically different things.

Yes; many of those things influence people to change. The military also strongly influences people to change. In fact, any group you are in - work, school, friends, HN - changes you.

whoosh

It seems one of us isn't thinking. What does your one-word comment indicate?



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