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You're shifting the frame. The original question was about cumulative deaths, direct or indirect, linked to systems like socialism or capitalism, not about which one produced more GDP growth. Pointing to poverty reduction doesn't erase the structural harms capitalism has caused or the millions who've died from preventable conditions under regimes that prioritized market logic over human need.

You can't ethically "net out" human deaths with economic gains. That treats lives as statistical noise in a profit-loss spreadsheet. It’s not just bad morality, it’s bad history too.




Economic gains represent people being lifted out of dangerous situations and increasing access to thing like health care and stable/clean housing. Economic gains in the moral opposite of preventable deaths. You cannot indict capitalism for the people that die under it while simultaneously ignoring the lives it has saved through poverty reduction


We could talk about direct, actual murder. I think that capitalist interference, coups, counter-revolutionaries, and death squads have managed to murder more people than socialists have.

“Source?” Eh, I’m just telling you my perspective in the same vigorous way that you opened this thread.

> I think socialist revolutions have killed more "out group" members than any political/religious movement in human history




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