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> Whatever Bolsonaro may or may not have started, it's bigger than him now.

I mean, it's a pretty big deal if he started it or not.

Punish crimes or take the laws off the books.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230108201723/https://www.busin...



There are no laws against protests or the questioning of voting machines in Brazil. Quite the contrary, our constitution is quite explicit in defending political freedom of expression.

What are you supposed to do when the supreme court starts violating the law and the constitution? Who are you supposed to turn to?

Their abuses started in 2019 with a "fake news" censorship inquisition and by 2021 they were disproportionately censoring Bolsonaro and his supporters for "fake news". Suddenly everything they said was "fake news", even provably true statements. People started to understand the court answered to no one and had itself launched a silent coup against brazilian institutions. That's the "countercoup" messaging in the article you cited.

If I had to point out someone as the "mastermind" of all this, I would say it was the supreme court. Society is merely trying to react to their profoundly destabilizing actions.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44748869

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39966382

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36543423


> What are you supposed to do...?

Well, you can

> ...[seek] to violently overthrow the democratically elected president Lula, who had been inaugurated on 1 January. Many rioters said their purpose was to spur military leaders to launch a "military intervention" (related to a misinterpretation of the 142nd article of the Brazilian constitution and a euphemism for a coup d'état) and disrupt the democratic transition of power.

> Several law enforcement officers assaulted and injured by rioters, at least 44 hospitalized [1]

You can have, in Donald Trump's words, "a day of love." [2]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8_January_Bras%C3%ADlia_attack...

[2] https://www.npr.org/2024/10/29/nx-s1-5159868/2024-election-t...


If only he could claim responsibility for that. Like I said, he betrayed all of those people. By January 8th, he had already given up and was in the USA enjoying a "vacation". Those protests happened in spite of him.


Ah yes, absolutely innocent people usually flee to other nations minutes after losing an election and coincidentally also have a palace coup happen at the same time.




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