> What is the point of acting like Hamas has not constantly, from its inception, called for the utter destruction of israel?
What is the point of acting like Israel doesn't have the means of wiping Hamas 100 times over? You know, even if you don't like the goals of Hamas (which is not monolithic, it has even accepted Palestine in the 1967 borders, offered 10-year truces, etc)- if you give people what is fair, and cooperate, and let them have a life with hopes and future- you will get peace in return- with or without Hamas.
And the bottom off this idea of "Hamas wants to destroy Israel" there is always the idea that Palestinians are rabid animals, more interested in destroying the others than in their own happiness. This is stupid and racist.
> You dont get to constantly launch rockets at their biggest city and then claim you want peace.
Well, you don't get to take someone's land, enforce apartheid, close 2 million people in a cage and claim you want peace either. You take the rockets, ffs, in fact you deserve much bigger ones.
> Well, you don't get to take someone's land, enforce apartheid, close 2 million people in a cage and claim you want peace either.
The palestinains started pretty much every war. Israel won them. If the palestinians didnt want to be stuck in gaza they shouldnt have started and lost all those wars. Now they have to live with the consequences. To be clear I dont think gazans are wrong for being pissed about their situation. I do think theyre wrong for doing absolutely nothing to improve it though. I think theyre wrong for starting wars they cant win and then complaining when they dont win them.
> the idea that Palestinians are rabid animals, more interested in destroying the others than in their own happiness.
Maybe if they stopped devoting all their resources to destroying israel and invested in themselves people wouldnt think this(to be clear I dont, although I do think Hamas leadership largely does thinks this). The bottom of the idea that hamas wants to destroy israel is hamas, repeatedly saying they want to destroy israel. Why shouldnt I trust what they constantly say?
> What is the point of acting like Israel doesn't have the means of wiping Hamas 100 times over?
Who is acting like this? Israel shown restraint which hamas has never done. You are right, they could kill every single person in gaza quite easily, they dont want to. The same cant be said for hamas and how they feel about israelis.
> Well, you don't get to take someone's land, enforce apartheid, close 2 million people in a cage and claim you want peace either.
Why not? Why should Israel, with the power to wipe palestine off the map, settle for anything less? The problem with hamas launching rockets is that they cant back it up when israel correctly sees that as a declaration of war.
> You take the rockets, ffs, in fact you deserve much bigger ones.
And this mentality is why the israelis have decided a genocide is their best option
The Palestinians didn't start the 'war of Independence' in which the precursors of the most moral army in human existence prosecuted what widely fit the rubric war crimes on a massive scale. They didn't start the 1967 war, that was Israel. They didn't occupy South Lebanon or the Golan Heights. They didn't assassinate multiple government officials in Lebanon and Iran and the prime minister of Yemen. They weren't the party who broke dozens of internationally brokered ceazefires by raiding cities in Palestinian territories. This is such an egregious misunderstanding it's hard to blame it on simple ignorance.
What is the point of acting like Israel doesn't have the means of wiping Hamas 100 times over? You know, even if you don't like the goals of Hamas (which is not monolithic, it has even accepted Palestine in the 1967 borders, offered 10-year truces, etc)- if you give people what is fair, and cooperate, and let them have a life with hopes and future- you will get peace in return- with or without Hamas.
And the bottom off this idea of "Hamas wants to destroy Israel" there is always the idea that Palestinians are rabid animals, more interested in destroying the others than in their own happiness. This is stupid and racist.
> You dont get to constantly launch rockets at their biggest city and then claim you want peace.
Well, you don't get to take someone's land, enforce apartheid, close 2 million people in a cage and claim you want peace either. You take the rockets, ffs, in fact you deserve much bigger ones.