Fun fact, that the famous Holocaust five digit number is still used today in IBM mainframe RACFs, this is coming from the punch cards era, when the census data was tabulated in Nazi Germany with the help of Thomas Watson.
I worked at a large US bank, and we used IBM mainframes at the core, including user identity.
Every employee had a five digit number as login, no different than Holocaust prisoner number, with a prefix, indicating user account type (employee, non-employee, service acct, etc).
Who else? The people actually holding the hostages, perhaps.
Because you surely mistakenly implied here that All Gazans categorically are responsible for the hostage-taking and "deserve" to be killed as a consequence of that.
Your use of language betrays your feelings. You are disgusting.
Why would anyone in Palestine, including Gaza, care about helping the people who have occupied them since 1948, with the help of the Brits and funding of the US?
No, it's just been so isolated that only Israel can control who and what goes in and out, to the point NGOs have described it for decades as the world's biggest open air concentration camp. I don't condone the horrible things Hamas did (that were actually proven and not later disproven hasbara, like the rapes), but I'm also not arrogant enough to tell an occupied people how they should be resisting their occupiers, especially when the target is a military outpost (which is essentially what the kibbutz was) mere miles from Gaza and being used as a base largely by standing members of the IDF and their families (i.e. the occupying force). Desperate people take desperate measures, who knew? The Irgun and Haganah probably should have thought about that before they violently persuaded the British into giving them a "homeland" that already had a people - including Jews and Christians - living in relative peace on it for almost a thousand years.
> This war that European Jews started in 1948 when they decided to attack and invade Palestine spans 2 continents, and more if you include the various attacks elsewhere.
This is extremely ignorant. Jews have lived in Israel continuously for 3000 years. The modern Zionist migration, which started in the late 19th century (far from the first such movement for the Jews, and far from the last we've seen globally for all peoples), was met with violence by the Arabs with pogroms and organized violence starting in the 1920s. It was the Arab nations who attacked the Jews in 1948, not the other way around, and both Jews and Arabs were displaced in the war. Prior to then, there was no land "stolen" by Jews, just land legally purchased from Arab landowners. We'll ignore the fact that the Muslim caliphates and Ottomans stole the land in the first place and focus on the modern conflict. We can also ignore the repeated mass-murders / pogroms of Jews throughout Israel and the rest of the Arab/Muslim world in the 19th, 18th, 17th, 16th, and prior centuries, since acknowledging that Jews were repeatedly killed in Safed and elsewhere would require you to acknowledge they existed there and were oppressed by the people and dhimmi laws of the Muslim empires.
The Arabs were and are the equivalent of the xenophobic Trump supporters in the US - they didn't want Jews coming in, buying land, working and thriving, etc. Do you also support violence against non-white migrants in the west?
No, it isn't ignorant, it's history, and pointing to other historical examples of colonialism and imperialism doesn't make modern colonialist states legitimate. Romans lived in the UK over a thousand years ago, but that wouldn't give their descendants in modern Italians the right to occupy the UK, and us native Brits would be well within our right to fight back any invading and occupying force whether the invading and occupying force likes it or not. Muslims, Jews and Christians lived in relative peace in Palestine for almost a thousand years before the British put Israel there.
The British not only didn't put Israel there, they actually fought against the Jews and supported the Arab armies in 1948, after previously restricting Jewish migration during the Holocaust (contributing to many Jewish deaths). Modern Zionism began 30 years before the Brits took control.
Thank you. Although I have no personal interest in the outcomes of this conflict, it is astounding to see how these basic historical facts are not only unknown to so many people who hold strong opinions on the Israel-Gaza conflict, but also outright denied. I guess this must also be how Holocaust denialism was ever a thing.
Do you also suggest Jewish families get back land and businesses that they lost in countries in the region in the process?
Because more Jews were squeezed into Israel than Arabs who were squeezed out.
These Jews also lost everything.
And unlike Israeli Arabs who at least from the declaration of Israel got an invitation to stay there as citizens, this option was not offered to the Jews of surrounding nations.
Furthermore, if you want to go back in history, note that Israel was not originally suggested because of WW2 and Holocaust, but decades before because of Muslim harassment of the Jewish minorities in their countries.
Just like Pakistan was created as a national home for Muslims to protect them from Hindus.
Feel free to see for yourself and also to ask why absolutely nobody in UN or the "unbiased" media or schools has told you this before...
"Squeezed"? I think you mean invited. Assuming you're not being disingenuous, which is unlikely given your other comments and clear hate for Palestinians, maybe you should look at the One Million Plan and the many similar movements by Israel to import tens of millions of Jews into the area since 1948, and the many atrocities like Deir Yassin that forced Palestinians out. Israel has been a long time in the making, since the time of the Irgun and Haganah at least, and none of the current situation is accidental.
