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Forgeties79 · 2025-09-30T17:47:34 1759254454

Frankly it’s borderline unethical that they offered 8gb models past like…M1. 12gb isn’t enough IMO for anyone who wants a machine that will last but at least it’s a step in the right direction.

My friend with an M3 MacBook was complaining about the speed. I told them that was ridiculous and they must be doing something incredibly intensive. I came and took a look at it - I know chrome tabs are a memory hog but my God this thing slowed to a crawl with even lightweight usage despite being weeks old. I told him to return it immediately.

jeffbee · 2025-09-30T17:50:36 1759254636

I am totally satisfied with the utility of my Apple Silicon Mac mini that is now 5 years old. Calling it "unethical" shows you have a weird point of view out of touch with mainstream use cases.

zf00002 · 2025-09-30T17:53:53 1759254833

Reading on my 8gb M2 Air that I have not once ever felt is lacking.

Forgeties79 · 2025-09-30T19:01:00 1759258860

Glad you’ve had a good experience, maybe we just got a bad computer. But I know what I saw ultimately and what it was was a brand new M3 machine running like crap.

sys_64738 · 2025-09-30T21:19:16 1759267156

Try installing Vitals.app open source app to see what's going on:

https://github.com/hmarr/vitals

Stats is another good one too:

https://github.com/exelban/stats

saagarjha · 2025-10-01T09:50:34 1759312234

Why not just use Activity Monitor

sys_64738 · 2025-10-03T13:27:24 1759498044

Vitals.app has a great feature that you don't see in Activity Monitor.

saagarjha · 2025-10-03T16:44:49 1759509889

…what is it?

sys_64738 · 2025-10-03T19:11:13 1759518673

Keeps the CPU percentage history of every process running or recently exited.

Forgeties79 · 2025-10-01T16:45:13 1759337113

Honestly combed it over and it didn’t tell us anything other than high mem utilization/pressure. I’m not sure what the deal is but I’ve found AM on Mac’s almost…deceptive? It feels like I’m not getting the full story sometimes. We use one at my office for live streams and the math on resources often does not check out. Our head of engineering agrees that his experience with the silicon chips has been that they do not like to let go of tasks/processes and can be a little opaque about what it is doing in the background.

I know it sounds a lot like vibes, because it kind of is, but it’s just what we’ve seen.

saagarjha · 2025-10-01T18:31:27 1759343487

Why are the tools you linked better though, they mostly use the same APIs

Forgeties79 · 2025-10-01T21:04:19 1759352659

I think you’re mixing me up with sys. I didn’t link anything

Forgeties79 · 2025-09-30T18:58:37 1759258717

No need for a personal attack dude.

astrange · 2025-09-30T23:25:10 1759274710

It should not have been noticeably slow no matter what you did. It'd run out of memory with enough tabs of course.

The fastest way to get more memory is an ad blocker.

acdha · 2025-09-30T17:57:14 1759255034

> I know chrome tabs are a memory hog but my God this thing slowed to a crawl with even lightweight usage despite being weeks old. I told him to return it immediately.

Wouldn’t it be easier to use Firefox or Safari? Chrome is a hog but it’s not like we don’t have multiple great alternatives which also use something like half of the battery and don’t oppose privacy measures.

Forgeties79 · 2025-09-30T18:59:45 1759258785

Not my computer, I’m not going to say “don’t like your computer? Change browsers.” They returned it, got a little more ram, and they’re happy now. I don’t know what their use case is that in-depth so I’m not going to tell them to completely change their browsing habits and usage unless they are open to that. $200 later they were happy.

Given the field they are in, I imagine they use chrome like many do for compatibility/testing reasons

ksec · 2025-09-30T18:10:05 1759255805

Chrome, for at least the past 2 years have drastically improved multiple Tab memory usage. It also now default unload tabs which is unused just like Firefox. While it still isn't as good as Firefox in 100+ Tabs scenario Chrome is not too far off. Unlike Safari which as of version 26 still doesn't care much about multi tabs usage.