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The challenge is that per well documented Islamic teachings (and written material), those teachings are actively blasphemous. Not exaggerating either.


Islamic teachings/belief tell you approximately as much as catholics teachings/belief which is to say next to nothing.

The Islamic world in as much as it exists as entity is not homogeneous in its belief and practices. It’s a collection of countries and groups and they don’t all agree.


Like the Holy Ghost/Spirit to Catholics?

I never said it was homogenous, I’m pointing out core beliefs that - while modified in a few places - are definitional for the religion, and are fundamentally at odds with other perspectives.

This isn’t hypothetical, this is a lived experience for a billion+ people.


So is the vast majority of secular western society according to hardline christian religion. I think what poster you're replying to is implicitly saying is just that religious institutions have to weakened and "tamed"


The difference is, Islam isn’t out of the fight yet.

Even 200 years ago, this would be (and was!) a very different discussion around Christianity, eh?


That’s true for all Abrahamic religions though. People can and have just ignored the parts that don’t fit in with modern society.




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