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Nobody thinks this is a weird reaction to an OS update that's been out for years at this point and barely makes a difference over the previous version?

There's no 'Recall'. Co-pilot isn't all over in your face so removing it isn't really a priority. Edge isn't forced on you, it's just part of the bundled software just like a bunch of other items as in every Windows for decades. Not saying it doesn't get hairy if you're going out of your way to remove them or not be in the ecosystem, but consumers don't care, and for the most part stuff isn't being forced in front of them.



I've started running windows 11 lately because I've gotten some laptops that had it, and after removing all the microsoft pushed apps including removing OneDrive at least twice... It just doesn't feel very good.

a) the lock screen gets stuck from time to time if you hit enter to get to the password entry, until you turn off all the pushed content on the lock screen. Which ok, I'm happy I turned that off... but then I had to log out and back in for that setting to take effect. Now that I know about that setting, I turned it off on my windows 10 machines, and it takes effect instantly.

b) I like my windows round on the top and square on the bottom. It's cutting off the bottom left character in my putty windows; you used to be able to undo that in the registry, but now you need to force load dlls (maybe putty can fix it?)

c) I don't want notepad to have tabs or autosaving

d) it feels like keyboard focus gets lost to the ether a lot more. I had this happen in new style apps on 10 (like the new calc), but it happens at the desktop from time to time on 11.

I had been using linux as my main desktop at home for years, and went back to windows 7 when gnome2 ended. 7 was very good, but it's been downhill since then, especially since Microsoft killed off SDET roles. I'll probably keep windows on the laptops (useful for FRC), but when support for 10 runs out, the desktops are going to move to FreeBSD and I dunno, fvwm maybe?


If you’re not on the corporate managed version of Windows 11, Microsoft frequently resets the default apps related to browsing, svg, pdf etc. I had it done twice in a week recently. That’s what flipped the trigger for me and I finally abandoned Microsoft.

If you’re measuring “Windows isn’t annoying” from the corporate perch, that’s not a fair comparison to what consumers and home users put up with.

Not to mention the forced upgrade and reboots that can’t easily be disabled for same.


> been out for years

Because now is the real push to get everyone off 10.


Almost nobody thinks that. You sound like you don't use or are not very familiar with your OS very much tbh


Every other OS from MS is garbage. XP good, Vista bad, 7 good, 8 so bad no one remembers it, 10 goodish, 11 horrific.

The hate is hardly unprecedented and indeed well-deserved. MS has shown in the past that they’ll respond to poor OS reception with attempts to win back customers and that’s what I’m hoping for in this case.


> Every other OS from MS is garbage. XP good, Vista bad, 7 good, 8 so bad no one remembers it, 10 goodish, 11 horrific.

Rather:

2000: good

XP: decent (after a long series of patches)

Vista: bad

7: good

8: horrific

10: bad (basically all the people hated it because of the surveillance stuff)

11: horrific




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