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I'm curious to what extent things in this article have been fixed:

"Think twice before abandoning X11. Wayland breaks everything!"

https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d...

In my experience Wayland always had problems, so depending on how XWayland works, I'd probably have to drop Gnome if there's no X11 support that's functional and I imagine a lot of others would need to do so (until X11 support is reinstated)

What are some better Gnome alternatives that support X11?



Most of the arguments sound irrelevant:

>Wayland breaks everything! It is binary incompatible, provides no clear transition path with 1:1 replacements for everything in X11, and is even philosophically incompatible with X11

Being binary compatible is a moot point, 1:1 replacement for "everything in X11" are not an issue if the subset you need works or has good replacements, and being "philosophically incompatible" is part of the point of using it.

>Even the most basic, most simple things (like xkill) - in this case with no obvious replacement

Yes, you can't use Xkill to kill a Wayland-based application- wasn't that a given. You can use regular kill or whatever means your DE provides (several do).

If your workflows depend on regular use of xkill, you have bigger problems than it not being available for Wayland.


yes but it's no good to me if wayland supports the subset of functionality that you use but not the subset that I need.


KDE, MATE, Cinnamon.

Gnome has been going in this direction for many years now, where it seems to ship based on the principle of "works on my machine." Gnome is also the driving force behind Wayland. Go figure.




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