Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

You're probably imagining two black coffees, and all three drinks being of modest size like medium.

But if you turn those into "specialty" coffees and upsize them, and then add ~10% sales tax, it's very plausible that the price was closer to $20 than $10.

Between prices inflating and people's tastes being pretty unmoderated and indulgent for a long while now, the total cost of "everyday" expenses adds up quick.

Even the simple black drip coffee drinks that have basically no material or labor cost are priced at $2-4 in a lot of places now because people have become so dependent on the habit of treating themselves to one, and often a very large one, that they've become price insensitive and easily exploited by any coldly calculating business.





> black drip coffee drinks that have basically no material or labor cost

Raw coffee prices have been rising for a while now[0], and I assume even in the US people are more attuned to decent coffee.

And I kinda hope producing countries get enough power to get better deals (thus increasing coffee prices further...) as they're usually getting shafted pretty hard.

[0] https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/coffee


> if you turn those into "specialty" coffees and upsize them, and then add ~10% sales tax

Right off the bat, it's McDonalds, there are no "specialty" coffees. And the sales tax is irrelevant, what matters is what comes out of the pocket.

$20 for McD-quality coffees and soda is insanely expensive. It puts it above places like Starbucks which makes no sense because there's a Starbucks literally 50m/150ft away from that very same McD.

Pictures of the menu at the closest McDonald’s to MacArthur Park show the coffees at ~$4 and sodas at ~$2-3 all large, which is a more realistic number but still only around half the quoted amount.


Huh?

Of course there are "specialty" coffees at many McDonald's. Well over a decade ago, recognizing the margin and admitting the public interest in sweet, creamy, coffee drinks, they began a shift into direct competition with Starbucks, et al and offer a full menu of Americanized espresso and blended coffee drinks. Like at Starbucks, these easily run over $5 for the large sizes, and they're widely available.

Because of both brand loyalty, or because they also want other things from McDonald's that Starbucks don't carry, it's a extremely successful and profitable product segment for them, even when a Starbucks is "literally 50m/150ft away".

https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/full-menu/mccafe-coffees....

https://www.mac-menus.com/mccafe-menu/


McD’s made a huge push into the “upscale coffee” market about a decade ago (e.g., competing directly with Starbucks) and it’s paid off.

The gas stations that did similar are also doing well. The era of Irma’s coffee is past.


One of my kids favorite drinks from McDonalds has been an iced mocha for roughly a decade

> simple black drip coffee drinks

I visited London last year and was surprised & disappointed that the McDonalds across from the Trocadero did not have any such thing as simple black drip coffee (to which I could add half-and-half). The closest I could come was "flat white", which I never heard of before in the U.S.


A flat white is just a small latte (i.e. with a higher espresso to milk ratio). It's not based on filter coffee.

Half and half does not exist in the UK (or Europe more generally, AFAIK).

Filter coffee exists but is less common, especially now that office coffee tends to be handled by coffee machines that make espresso(-style) coffee.




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: