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All he had to do was yell out loudly, turn on the lights or do something to let whoever was -inside know that someone was outside looking for a jobsite.

for that matter when you try to enter someone elses house with a key, it normally starts with

'knockknock/ringring "hello smalltime cleaning service im looking for 123 circle boulevard to mop and dust, joe gave me keys, is any one home?"

we have housecleaners up here too, and they are very big on a prolonged contact attempt, when its a "walk-in job" thats because if you dont, you are doing what home invaders do, and all you have to do is attempt verbal contact even if you think noone is there, and you have the right place. its seatbelt simple.

same the other way, " i dont know you, i didnt ask for service your acting like a burglar, go away from my door, and leave"

thats how we do it up here, police are hours, sometimes days away from responding to emergency calls



Read the article first before you comment;

The pair found work as contractors for a cleaning service. On Nov. 5, they were tasked with cleaning the windows of a recently constructed model home that is part of a new housing development directly east of Andersen’s house, court documents say.

Shortly before 7 a.m., Ríos Pérez de Velásquez and her husband were standing on the front porch of what they believed was the house they were meant to clean, court records say. Given that it was a model home, the records say, they thought no one was living there and observed no lights on inside or cars in the driveway. The pair started trying the keys.

Note: Given that it was a model home, the records say, they thought no one was living there and observed no lights on inside or cars in the driveway.

They were told it wasn't occupied and were given keys to enter and clean. Those were the instructions they followed.

Do not condone or excuse Murder.


never attempt to enter a house that isnt yours, without announcing your presence. regardless of assumptions. never give deficient instructions to your employees.

BTW this is more like manslaughter than murder. read the statutes before you comment on legal matters.

all you guys that do housecalls should learn from this incident, always check your status, the situation can change suddenly espescially in a stand your ground state.

you, yourself are the first and foremost safety stop.

no one of any reasonable sort, closes thier eyes, and walks across traffic to cross the street.

if you want to get into the habit of attempting entry into a home, that isnt yours, without onsite confirmation, at 7am without announcing yourself, in a stand your ground state, go ahead.

they had the wrong house, thx google maps, as ive said before, the blame goes all around here. its swiss cheese.


You are again condoning and excusing Murder by victim blaming. As i have clearly pointed out from the article which quotes from the court records itself;

1) The House was said to be a "Model House" and no one living in it.

2) Because of the above, they were given keys to explicitly open, enter and clean the house.

3) When they arrived at the house, there were no lights, no cars, no dogs etc. all consistent with the signs of an unoccupied house.

4) So they started trying the keys one-by-one in order to do their job.

The above sequence is perfectly logical and that is what most of us would have done in a similar situation.

The guy did not fire randomly (i am almost sure that racism must be involved here given the current anti-immigrant sentiments roiling the US) but must have seen the victims through a peep-hole/windows and then must have opened fire deliberately. He aimed at one of them squarely with a handgun. No warnings etc. were given. It is murder pure and simple.

“We cannot, as a society, have people deciding literally to shoot first and ask questions later,” said Jody Madeira, a law professor at Indiana University.




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