"Where does snake oil end and "something better" begin? Is something better ever not snake oil? Is a public discussion of an issue never not rigged in favor of the organizers? Is tumultous public discussion never not preamble to a coup justified as needed to control the mob who has gotten out of hand, who voted the wrong way, who attacked the leaders? Who hacked the experts?" --JYA
> Is tumultous public discussion never not preamble to a coup justified as needed to control the mob who has gotten out of hand, who voted the wrong way, who attacked the leaders?
I'm sorry, but that is one of the most convoluted sentences I've ever had the misfortune to read. What exactly is he trying to say here? That Schneier is just peddling his services in this article? That just reeks of an ad hominem: the only mention I see of Schneier himself in the article is "Bruce Schneier is a security technologist and author of Liars and Outliers: Enabling the Trust Society Needs to Survive." OK, so he has a new book out, but I don't think there is anything particularly wrong with what he says in the article: we _are_ being tracked left, right and center by all sorts of agencies, government and private. And yes, it would be good to raise more awareness about it with people not in our industry. What exactly is there to dispute here?
At 06:09 AM 3/18/2013, Eugen Leitl wrote on Cypherpunks:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/16/opinion/schneier-internet-...
The Internet is a surveillance state
By Bruce Schneier, Special to CNN
March 16, 2013 -- Updated 1804 GMT (0204 HKT)
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Bruce Schneier: Whether we like it or not, we're being tracked all the time on the Internet
Schneier: Our surveillance state is efficient beyond the wildest dreams of George Orwell
He says governments and corporations are working together to keep things that way
http://cryptome.org/2013/03/net-spy-state.htm
"Where does snake oil end and "something better" begin? Is something better ever not snake oil? Is a public discussion of an issue never not rigged in favor of the organizers? Is tumultous public discussion never not preamble to a coup justified as needed to control the mob who has gotten out of hand, who voted the wrong way, who attacked the leaders? Who hacked the experts?" --JYA