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Moto X phone specifications (motorola.com)
62 points by soupboy on Aug 1, 2013 | hide | past | favorite | 83 comments


This introduction for Moto X is really, really trying way too hard to be cool in both the copy and design. It comes off almost as badly as the Samsung ad mocking the uncool parents and nerds in line for iPhones.

Particularly cringeworthy:

* "Your socks, your watch, your bike say so much about you" * "Play Goldilocks and choose the right size for you: 16 or 32 MB" Was Goldilocks really the best pick here--isn't this the male pitch, badger hair shaving brush, tortoise shell glasses and all? Didn't Goldilocks have three choices? * "you'll never miss those OMG-that-was-sick-did-you-see-that moments" Sick copy brah. * "Moto X responds to your voice, no touching necessary. (That's what she said.)" This doesn't even make sense as a joke.


That Samsung ad has been wildly successful and has been running for a very long time. It only comes across "badly" to existing iOS nuts.

I won't speak to the marketing copy here. I agree it certainly doesn't move me, but then I'm (and no doubt you're) hardly in the target demographic either.


I've never been overly fond of Samsung or Moto ads and I'm a long time Android User, Android App Developer and also mod the ASOP for fun and customization.

Then again, I'm probably not their target audience either since I won't go for anything not a Nexus device and dislike preachy advertising for any brand.


Also, "feminine mystique" and "wear it well, kemosabe" are both guaranteed to ruffle all the wrong feathers for many people, including me. I'm really surprised some of this copy made it out of a mock-up.


wow that is actually their marketing copy... An actual "that's what she said joke", holy shit.

I once wrote about Apple was losing their way in terms of their marketing writing, but it seems their competition is not even close to catching up.

As a lowly marketer it strikes me as unfair/frustrating that there are people out there getting paid triple what I get paid writing unconvincing drivel that treats the customer as a dumb internet meme.


They've removed the "that's what she said" joke. Hilarious.


I would assume treating customers as a dumb internet meme is a demographically driven choice.


Also cringeworthy is "Assembled in USA" with pictures of the device showing a photo of a person draped in the stars'n'stripes.

Snapping in place a back plate doesn't change the reality that the device is 99% manufactured and assembled in China.

Disappointing from Motorola/Google.


From the Wired article, they made it seem like they moved the entire Chinese factory to Texas and replaced the humans with automation.

Is that not the case?


This is what happens when marketing teams are given free reign without restrictions. Ugh.


I think if you're buying phones based on # of cores or Ghz, you're basing purchases on the wrong thing.

If you want to buy a smartphone based on the fact that it has 4 ARM cores, you are buying on specs, not on actual delivered capability, and those extra cores may very well be eating up more power and more die space for no reason. (I'm not talking about Moto X's low-power DSP cores, I'm talking about having 4 Krait or ARM 15 cores)

GPU cores are different because GPU workloads are automatically parallelizable, but then again, you only need as many GPU cores as it takes to drive average workloads at the given pixel density. It makes no sense to include enough GPU to render a game at 250 frames per second. Developers are most likely not going to spend time optimizing a game for a high end GPU like it was some kind of console in a fragmented market like Android.

Point is, one should look at these phones from a practical standpoint and ignore the spec sheets. Does it take good pictures? Does it feel fast? Does the screen look good? Does the battery last long? Does it feel good to hold and lightweight? Does it do cool stuff that makes you more productive, etc.

If you buy phones on spec alone you may end up with a POS that looks good on paper but is irritating to use.

Take the Galaxy S4, sure, on paper and benchmarks (some of which are cheats), it looks great. But how often are those peak rates hit? How much Android software really takes advantage of the full power of the device? How much battery life is sacrificed, or size?

You could say that the screen or memory capacity might be objectively better, but again, how much of a price in battery life are you paying for those displays?

Also, on customization, consider that Motorola is going to build and ship, to you, a phone in 4 days. Maybe you don't care about any of the color options, but you have to admit, being able to assemble and ship a phone to you with a 4-day turnaround is impressive and is a manufacturing capability that is sure to useful for other things in the future.


Who is complaining about the specs? I seriously doubt many people, even in these parts, buy phones based on the number of cores in the cpu or gpu alone.

The big problem I see with the Moto X is the price. A mid-range phone should not be 550 off-contract. I was seriously expecting a $299-349 price for this kind of device. Maybe we will see that with the Play edition? I doubt it though.


Basically every single comment on /r/android about this phone is about how the specs are not high enough to justify the price. It's kind of disappointing and amazing.


They are right though - spec for spec, this phone is priced much higher than phones with equivalent components. Whether or not that matters is yet to be determined, but we do know that in the past, Android handsets have dated fairly badly, so specs are something that have to be taken into consideration, even if the handset feels good now.

The high cost is a result of having it made in the USA, no doubt.


Go spend any time on Reddit, Engadget, Verge etc and 99% of comments will centre around specs.

It's hard not to when it is often the only thing differentiating one Android phone from another.


Nothing official is announced. The Nexus 4 was launched @ $199 on contract too, and $299 off contract. That's a $100 subsidy. How do we know what the subsidy for the Moto X is?


The Verge is claiming a confirmed price of $575 off contract locked to AT&T. http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/1/4579278/google-play-edition...


Yes, but that's not a Google Play phone. The off-contract Nexus 4 on AT&T was over $400. AT&T is greedy.


Where did you hear the 550 off-contract price? I thought that hadn't been announced.


Need the usual disclaimer that you're a Googler :P


It's being reported that the bootloader is locked:

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/08/01/moto-x-bootloader-is-lo...

So that's that. I was waiting for this reveal before deciding on a new phone purchase, but that's not remotely acceptable for me. Looks like a GS4 Google Edition is in my future instead.


How bizarre that Google would push for and sell in their store unlocked versions of the Samsung and HTC phones, but not release the Moto phone unlocked to begin with. Like, why does their own phone need a Google Edition? Hilarious.

Maybe the companies aren't integrated enough for that, yet? You'd think Google would be more of a mind with its own company than with the competition, though!


A Google Edition will be released soon.

That this version is not available right at launch sucks, but it's not like they can just dictate to carriers whatever they want.

They probably had to make some concessions (like the AT&T exclusive on the designs) to get the phone in the front of every store. They obviously want to go mainstream with that device, and for that you need the cooperation of all the big carriers. (and thats probably not so easy considering that it took Apple years to get its iPhone sold by most carriers)


> it's not like they can just dictate to carriers whatever they want.

Why not? Apple does. And because Apple has paved the way since 2007, it should be much easier for Googorola. All it has to do is make a phone that consumers want. That way the telcos won’t be able to ignore it.


I get the impression that carriers are selling Android because it provides an alternative to iOS that they can control.


Yes, but someone needs to convince them that they are making the stupid choice. My guess is that no one in Google or Motorola is that person.


Getting back to what I said way upthread: it seems like refusing to buy a launch product through a carrier and going for a saner choice from the Play Store might be a good way to convince them.


Evidently there will be a Google Edition of the Moto X as well: http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/1/4579278/google-play-edition...


I think his point was that it should've been a "Google Edition" phone to begin with, and I agree. Every Motorola phone should be a "Nexus" phone (from low-end to high-end).

But this phone still feels 90 percent Motorola, rather than 90 percent Google. Hopefully by next year they'll learn from all the criticism they're getting right now, and make a true Google phone.

The Nexus 7 seems like a much better product/value than Moto X, and that felt very much like a "Google device".


Google has acquired quite a few properties that haven't well integrated into their ecosystem. I still am baffled youtube doesn't use Google+ comments or +1 ratings.


I had low expectations based on the leaks and this thing is still incredibly underwhelming even relative to my drastically reduced expectations.

Surprisingly meh across the board, even if the price were in Nexus 4 territory. At $200 on contract it is a sad and unfunny joke.

Between this and the fact that Google destroyed Navigation with Android Maps 7.0.2, I'm starting to doubt my next phone will be an Android device at all, which is an idea that would have been unfathomable to me a few months ago.


Is it $200 dollars on contract? I thought it was going to be in the range of $200 dollars off contract.


Why "OK Google Now" instead of just "OK Google"? That seems like too much sub branding, which is something I usually associate with Microsoft (every Microsoft product is called Microsoft+SomethingElse).

They certainly want the prefix to all voice commands to be a low incidence sequence of phonemes for any language so that you don't get spurious activations and drain battery and/or accidentally execute a command, but I would think "OK Google" is a rare enough phrase that it would suffice.

A five syllable "wake up" command just seems excessive.


In The Verge article [1], they mention that it had to be a unique phrase. I could see "OK Google" causing to many false activations.

[1] http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/1/4578890/this-is-the-moto-x


What's even stranger is that "OK Google" is the hotword for the Chrome Voice search thing they recently launched at IO.

Retconning "Google Now" into a voice assistant is weird because at IO they were saying how they wanted Google itself be the assistant, by modelling it after the Star Trek computer.

Also what happens when the actual, predictive Google Now comes out for Chrome?


Betcha it's something inherent to the ability to process the phrase "Google." Probably a usability thing, and a subtle one at that.


I guess we should be happy they didn't call it "OK Google Voice Search" ?


"Hello Moto"


Indeed. Another possible option is rebranding Now to something personal and unique, as is Siri


I hope its customizable or using voice commands with two phones nearby will be awkward.


It's trained to a specific user's voice.


Is this a real product launch? This page is horribly broken for me:

http://i.imgur.com/npxvDcQ.png

There's a header element further down the page "Feminine mystique", not sure what that has to do with a phone.

And then near the bottom there's some cringeworthy copy:

"Never ever, ever, like never, miss a shot ... And you'll never miss those OMG-that-was-sick-did-you-see-that moments again either."

Like dude, that phone is so sick....what? Is it meant to be a caricature of US youth?


Same here. A whole lot of blank white space. Had to do a Ctrl-A to find out there was white text on a white background. Same on Chrome, Firefox and IE. I thought perhaps our work network was blocking a stylesheet or something.


The upside of this website is that it is immediately obvious that I am not the target market for this phone.


Wow, for all the hype, this phone is incredibly mediocre.


I'm curious if this page was even supposed to go live. There are _2_ references to 16 MB / 32 MB and also a "That's what she said" blurb.

Ouch.


The MB thing appears to be fixed. I don't see it. Just GB.

"TWSS" is still a pretty popular (but pretty over used) thing. So I don't really see the issue there.


Motorola is not a "hip" or "young" brand. IMHO they should try easing into a new self-image a little more slowly. This seems a bit Ballmer-esque ("GIVE IT UP FOR ME!" / the dance monkey boy video).


Really? I thought their whole "Hello, Moto" campaign was along these lines. Not sure how "hip" or "young" it was... or this one for that matter. But I know lots of "unhip, unyoung" people that still drop a TWSS almost daily.


Yep, appears they've fixed that and removed the TWSS line.


Also Android 4.2.2


I wonder why it says Android 4.2.2 instead of Android 4.3


Didn't Google say they're operating Moto as a walled-off separate company so that it would have no advantage over other phone vendors?


I'm pretty sure it actually is shipping with 4.2.2. Only nexus devices get the latest and greatest OS so soon to its release


Thought the same thing... guess no Nexus experience here.


Can it swap batteries? I plan to continue sticking with Samsung Galaxy (3/4) for this reason alone. The UX benefit of never having to plug the phone into charge and just quickly swapping batteries when it dies (or on the road) is amazing.


How do you charge the SG3/4 spare battery ?


I've got one of these chargers:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Battery-Charger-2100mAh-Includ...

+ bought an extra battery (for a total of 3 batteries for ~$30).


that looks pretty sweet; I was just complaining the other day about the lack of a robust accessories market for non-iOS devices, because a given retail store can devote three feet of shelf space to iOS cases/chargers/whatever and cover ~30% of people who have a mobile device, whereas if they have three feet of android accessories, it probably covers much less of the market.

(though people who have samsung devices, given the market penetration that samsung has, are probably in better shape than others in this respect)


Apparently one of the scripts isn't loading so the images (which are referenced only through data-stretch attribute)

http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aahb_prd/on/demandware.stati...

to

hero-moto-x-08.jpg

EDIT: looks like they are using this jquery plugin https://github.com/danmillar/jquery-anystretch


Oddly, (or not?) the images were blocked by AdBlock, leaving me really confused.

-----

Very similar specs to my current

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_Nexus
minor improvements in battery, and camera


Yea, the only image (even without adblock) that loaded was the motorola logo at the top.


The images dont load for me at all, even on a browser without Adblock (FF Nightly)



Pretty sad. Guy Kawasaki had everyone super excited about building their own phone and we end up with just color and capacity choices. Plenty of phones with the later, not to mention SD card slots which are far more capable, and nearly everyone can already choose their color just by tossing a case on it. We even have companies selling custom 3D printed color cases with whatever you want on them in far more detail than this allows.


Motorola X8 Mobile Computing System

Wow, please no. Google, just relieve them from their pain already.


Hey wait a second...I am quite intrigued by that "always on" speech core and that NLP core. Google has some great speech recognition tech(possibly the best). This is one area where they can really leave the rest of the pack behind, looking like cave men.


Yes, this looks like a great little device but for the part about convincing me to buy it.


Does anyone see a full spec list? What sensors does it have? The page linked seems to only list some features.

Edit: "People are skydiving out of space ships." [Citation needed]! What ship has gone to space and also let someone skydive?!


http://www.redbullstratos.com

Old news, I know. :P


Hm. I am disappointed Google refers to those helium balloons as "space ships". They're atmospheric balloons, not space ships, and there's a really big difference. Okay, I'll calm down.

Back on topic, I'm still looking for the specs...


Wow... terrible taste with the "Feminine Mystique" reference.


Storage 16 GB standard, 32 GB version available online. 2 years 50GB storage free on Google Drive

Wait, so you get more free cloud storage than what the phone actually supports? Interesting.


I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that the Google Drive mobile app didn't store anything locally.


It caches locally, but it's not like dropbox and doesn't simply mirror your online data.


16 or 32 MB - I'm thinking this is an error.

http://imgur.com/dKRihDu


Buy a three year old phone, such as the HTC Desire with a 32GB SD card and you will have more storage than the new Moto X, even twice as much as the 16GB version.


I'm sorta disappointed.


Motorola is still alive?


Bought by Google.


People were mostly anticipating a crazy good battery and an unprecedented low on-contract price. Neither happened - time to move on.


Crazy good battery may yet be in there ... depending on your definition of "crazy".


I often get 24 hours on my iPhone 4S (with a few things turned off). And that's what Moto-X is promising. So I don't define that as "crazy good".




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